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France or Kentucky: The Tale of Two Dubonnet Bottles Blind taste test Cocktails After Dark

Welcome back to Cocktails After Dark! Join us as we dive into a fascinating exploration of global trade, focusing on the iconic Dubonnet. In this blind taste test, we compare the American and French versions of Dubonnet, uncovering subtle but significant differences in aroma, flavour, and mouthfeel. From the liquor store anecdotes to our candid impressions, this episode promises an insightful journey into the world of spirits. Stay tuned as we plan to experiment with crafting cocktails using both versions throughout the year, revealing how they interact with different mixers. Whether you’re a seasoned enthusiast or a curious novice, there’s something for everyone in this spirited adventure. Cheers to discovering the diverse flavors that span the globe!

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0:00 Welcome
0:10 Same name, different liquid
0:50 Dubonnet not the same everywhere
1:49 Uncork and pour
2:55 Julie arrives to mix up the glasses
3:24 Buying Dubonnet in Arkansas
3:59 Blind tasting begins

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L1S 0E9

Welcome Friends welcome back to the kitchen  welcome back to cocktails after dark in front of   me are two bottles of dubonnet one of the one of  the things that I I I understand from the comment  

Section is that a lot of people don’t don’t get  that even though a bottle has the same brand   name on it um and this happens across alcohol  categories even though it has the same brand name  

On it the liquid inside is not the same depending  on your geographical location on the planet um and   this goes for all alcohols they sometimes change  the alcohol content if they’re going to sell it  

In the United States or sell it in Canada or sell  it in England all of those sorts of things they’ll   change the amount of alcohol they’ll change the  formula and it may not actually be made in the   same Distillery which is the case for dubonnet  the entire planet with the exception of the  

United States gets what’s in this bottle made in  France in the United States and only in the United   States they get what’s inside this bottle made in  Kentucky um slightly different formula apparently   we’re going to do a taste test and figure that out  slightly different formula and different alcohol  

Content uh the American alcohol content is 19%  by volume the rest of the world is 14.9 um and   I don’t know what other changes there are what  other differences there are other than price got   this in Little Rock Arkansas last week and it was  $19.99 USD pick this up today in Toronto $16.49  

Canadian and I’ll put up the exchange rates  so the one from France was cheaper so this   is how it’s going to work got two glasses I’m  going to pour the two glasses I’m going to turn  

Them around I’m going to leave the studio Julie’s  going to come into the studio she’s going to turn   them around and then I’ll come back and we’ll  do a blind taste test crack open the American version and should have done this off camera oo

Okay so I’ve already forgotten  which is which because I’ve been   twisting them around so much I did  notice a slight different when I was   difference in the color and Clarity  when I was pouring them so I might be  

Able to figure it out there we go I’m  going to leave Julie’s going to come in goodes hey my turn hi all right so my instructions are to just I   I don’t think it matters okay  I’m going with that all right Glen

Okay dubonnet from America du from the rest of the  world made in France um it was very funny in the   liquor store that I went well the first liquor  store I went to they didn’t have it um second  

Liquor store that I went to with Brett they had  it and the guy behind the counter looks at Brett   my cousin Brett and I what are you two going to  do I can’t do the accent what are you two going  

To do with that so I explained it to him and  he kind of looked at me with this smirk on his   face and he goes I bet you the one from France  tastes better um and then I went and looked for  

It in the Kroger when we went into the Kroger I  couldn’t find it there either anyway give it a shot H I’ve never had Dubonnet this is kind  of a new it’s a very rich smell isn’t it

Mhm yeah I can see how it’s an after  a pair of teeth kind of so the main   ingredient historically um have a s have  some tea oh I should probably do it too   Tech technically these this is a this is  a quinquina it’s a fortified wine it’s a  

Fortified wine called the quinquina because it  has chinchona bark which is quinine um it smells similar so I get a I got a Welch’s grape  juice smell on the nose do you get that   like it’s really grape forward oh this  one’s more grape forward this one this  

One is more grape forward we should keep  them on the same side so we don’t get I   know so we don’t okay so this one  is more great forward to me on the nose okay that’s on that side okay yes that that one you said  is more grap forward yeah yeah

Okay I’m going to hold it so I can’t see I need to taste the one on the right again huh okay it’s hard to describe how they’re  different it’s subtle this one it’s a very subtle  difference but it is different

Yes okay so this one I I get a a really  big purple Jammy grape Welch’s grape   juice nose but there’s no real flavor to  carry that through but I do get the heat   of the alcohol this one less on the nose  but a rounder yeah a much rounder flavor  

Little stab of bitter but not that much  from from the chinchona I think it has   a different mouth feel to it that’s the part  that I’m something very different about it yes um and I already know which which one is

Which I know which one I prefer I think this is  the more pleasant flavor this one has a bit of a   bite to it yeah um I think if you were mixing  a drink it I don’t think it would matter no I  

I would matter but if you were going to sit down  you know have this over ice have it over ice or   with uh if this is your postner a PA tee that you  you know had before bedtime this would be my this  

Would be the choice that I would this would be my  choice and I think this would go much better in a   glass with fizzy water yeah as a uh what they call  that long it’s a long drink it’s a long drink but  

There’s another name for it too obviously you can  tell this is not a serious cocktail show so we’re   learning we are a learning cocktail show we are  not experts I’m not sure if youve noticed let’s   try everything and figure it out and I think  that’s I think that’s important because that  

Should be everybody’s experience rather than just  listening to the guy with the handlebar mustache   and the vest telling you what you’re supposed  to do so when I poured them I noticed a very um   obvious difference they they do have a different  Clarity in color this one is much clearer much  

More red brighter I would describe it as brighter  this one is a little bit not cloudy but cloudy   you’d almost think that it was a it’s almost like  a port you know when you pour a port and it’s got  

That of that Tawny brown color yeah so this is I’m  going to say this is the American one and this is   the FR okay so now that we’ve discussed this  all so intently I don’t know that I would just  

Casually drink other of them I would not I don’t  think I would just say you know what I really want   I want a duet I want a little duet I’m also not  someone who’s going to say like like a brandy  

Or a Sherry or a duet they all have they’re just  not my thing but they probably really good in a   cocktail so I think there’s a difference this is  the American one US you are correct this is the  

French one rest of world I know what anyway there  is a difference but I don’t know that it if you   taste them in isolation if someone just sort of  handed me one and said is this the one from France  

Or the one from Bardstown Kentucky I would I would  be able to know by looking at it and saying and   even then you’re just guessing you’ve got a 50/50  chance yeah it’s not that it’s not it’s not as  

Different as the pundits on the internet had led  me to believe there go the internet the internet   who believes those people okay so what we’re going  to do now that we have two big bottles of duet is  

We’re going to do some some cocktails we’re going  to do some cocktails over the course of the Year   we’re actually going to do them over the course  of the afternoon but as you know we do these in  

In a batch over the course of 2024 you will see  us make cocktails with the American and the French   one and then compare them because they may react  completely differently with in a cocktail that is   the unpredictable thing right you don’t know how  it’s going to work out so right hope you learned  

Something about juet take a look at the other  alcohol in your cabinet and realize that it is not   the same everywhere you travel in the world much  like this thanks for stopping by bye see you again soon

27 Comments

  1. I will once again be flying in the Give Hope Wings fundraiser this year! Our June of 2024 flight will see us stop in many communities in Eastern Canada to raise awareness for this worthy cause.
    Last year 2023 we raised over $27,000 towards helping our neighbours – we made a positive difference in the lives of many.
    Here's the link to the 2024 fundraiser page: https://support.hopeair.ca/ghw2024/glens-hangar
    To learn more about the Hope Air Charity: https://hopeair.ca/

  2. You two have given me a ray of hope! For many years, my favorite aperitif was Dubonnet on the rocks with a lemon twist. Then it became hard to find Dubonnet, so I switched to gin and tonics. A year or so ago, I bought a bottle here in the U.S. and was shocked to discover that it was not as good as it had been. How could they downgrade a drink ingredient favored by the late Queen?! Now I see that they did not; they only downgraded it for the American consumer. Time to empty the trunk of my car and book a trip to Canada!

  3. Hey Glen! Saw your video over the malt bread recipe and was wondering if you had worked out any sort of malt pizza dough that you like. Just had some over the weekend at a new restaurant and loved the flavor!

  4. Hey Glen, I wonder if you've ever come across Picon here is Canada. Or even had it before. I got obsessed with it in France drinking Picon biere and have been trying to recreate it for a year.

  5. I haven't had it, but according to the Heaven Hill marketing, the us version changed dramatically a couple years ago. The new version is made with the original recipe they purchased decades ago when her became the us brand owner. The old version had been lower quality for a while. The French version had also changed. But less, so they are much more similar now!

  6. Glen — Ever heard of Acerum? It is eau-de-vie made from maple syrup in Quebec. It could be a fun thing for you to explore.

  7. Oh, you've got me very curious now. I've got a very old bottle of Dubonnet that belonged to my mother, who passed nearly 20 years ago. The bottle is several years older than that. The label looks somewhat different from the one you recently bought in the US. I wonder where mine was made? I think the label says in France, but I'll have to check the fine print. Who knew they started making it at some point smack dab in the epicenter of Kentucky bourbon country?

  8. Have enjoyed Dubonnet for more than fifty years. Use to have the French made stuff in US until there became a licensed US producer with loss of flavor and increased cost. Have to get the real McCoy in Canada or have loyal friends bring it back duty free for less than 10 bucks. Worth the effort. Average price for alcohol fortified US version almost double. A ripoff! The licensee protective agreement works against free choice. The American version simply does not have customer demand outside the US.

  9. I wish I could effectively write in a way communicating what comes across as drunkenness. I'll try… We mericans don drink en the stuff es not abva enuff, ya know whadda mean?
    Alcohol levels are frequently boosted for sport. It helps to make everything worse. You just want to enjoy the vanilla flavor of a bourbon aged in certain wood species barrels? Prepare to have to endure substantially more ethanol. My country is Hydroxyl nation!

  10. you do all the shooting of your cocktail videos in one day?! i would be so hammered by the end of it, but i don't drink, so i have no built up tolerance

  11. My uncle used to ask if I wanted a Dubonnet aperitif by saying
    Je Dubonnet
    Tu Dubonnet
    Nous Dubonnez

    To which I would respond ah Dubonnet.

    We would mix it with bitter lemon over ice.

  12. I think I would know the difference between the two, because I'm hypersensitive to the proof level of beverage. So that's why I wondered how would you compare these fortified wines but make their ABV equal? Probably impossible.

  13. I can't hear "Dubonnet" without hearing Pia Zadora sing "Loooooove… is made for lingering" from that old 70s Dubonnet TV commercial. That jingle is lodged permanently in my brain.

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