
I’m about to take possession of an underground (-1) cellar near Paris that contains what looks like an entire amateur wine collection(~600 bottles) and I’d love some advice on what to do next.
The backstory is a bit strange. A company owned several cellars in our building but seems to have forgotten about them for decades. They weren’t properly secured, so residents informally started using them. During recent building renovation works, the company began receiving bills for the cellars, realised it still owned them, changed the locks and started selling them off.
This one remained unsold until I bought it. The wine was presumably left by a former resident, but there is no paperwork showing who the bottles belonged to or when they were bought. I have a suspicion it was one of our older neighbours who passed away a couple of years ago but can’t be sure.
What I can personally confirm is that the cellar has been untouched for at least eight years. I own the cellar directly next door, use it regularly, and have never seen anyone access this one.
From what I’ve seen so far, the previous owner was clearly a passionate amateur collector rather than someone buying bottles randomly. There are often multiple bottles from the same producer, domaine or vintage, sometimes 20 or more, as well as lots of older labels from small or now-obscure producers.
Some of the more interesting finds so far include:
Six bottles of Dom Pérignon 1976 in a sealed original case
Several bottles of Richebourg from 1972 and 1974
Multiple older Vosne-Romanée bottles
Château Chauvin Saint-Émilion Grand Cru 1978
Various Burgundy, Bordeaux and Sauternes from the 1970s onwards
Multiple magnums
Several unopened wooden cases
Photos here : https://imgur.com/a/TzbCnos
I’ve moved the bottles that appear potentially most valuable, mainly the Champagne and Burgundy, onto racks in my own cellar next door. There are still at least 500 more bottles of mostly wine (some spirits) to inspect.
The condition is mixed but probably better overall than the photos might initially suggest. Some bottles near the front are heavily mouldy, and a smaller number show serious seepage or failed corks.
However, around 90% are simply extremely dusty, have mould bloom on the labels or capsules, or have labels stained by another bottle leaking above them. Most fills appear to be neck or high shoulder, and the bottles further back generally look much better.
I’d like to clear the cellar reasonably soon because we want to start using it, but I also don’t want to move, clean or dispose of anything in a way that destroys value or useful evidence of storage.
My main questions are:
How would you triage and document a collection of this size without unnecessarily handling every bottle?
Does eight years of personally observed, untouched underground storage help at all when the earlier provenance is unknown?
Who would you contact in France for an in-person assessment: iDealwine, another auction house, a specialist merchant or an independent expert?
I’m not asking for individual bottle valuations or trying to sell anything through Reddit. And how long do you think this is going to take?
I’m mainly looking for advice on triage, provenance and the right type of professional to approach and establishing whether this is going to be worth the hassle.
Thanks in advance for any help!
by luzdeloscaballos

2 Comments
I’m not going to delve into French property law, but if it’s anything like UK/US law you need to be careful with this – you’ve bought the cellar, but the contents weren’t necessarily the building owner’s to sell. If it did belong to an elderly neighbour, then the bottles became part of their estate.
In practical terms, you might be fine, but there is a worse case scenario where someone emerges from the woodwork and wants to know what happened to Gramps’s collection, at which point you’ll be, as the French say, fuckéd.
Help? In what? Drinking it? As the coredditor said, just verify that you’re the owner of the bottles too. Then, let the chaotic fun begin. I would personally do 2 shorting systems: region and quality